{"id":16001,"date":"2020-11-09T15:28:47","date_gmt":"2020-11-09T14:28:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/?p=16001"},"modified":"2022-07-29T17:09:56","modified_gmt":"2022-07-29T15:09:56","slug":"literature-from-a-black-perspective-an-interview-with-eine-schwarze-liest-buecher","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/2020\/11\/09\/literature-from-a-black-perspective-an-interview-with-eine-schwarze-liest-buecher\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Literature from a Black perspective&#8221;: an Interview with @eine.schwarze.liest.buecher"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">P<strong>lease introduce yourself: who are you, what do you do, what should our readers know about you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m Chidera, I\u2019m 29 years old and a law student. I\u2019m currently getting ready for my first <em>staatsexamen<\/em>, as well as being mother to a three-year-old son and married. I wasn\u2019t born in Germany, but in Nigeria, and have only officially been a \u2018German\u2019 since 2006, when I got my German citizenship.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Your Instagram account eine.schwarze.liest.buecher (in English, roughly, <em>a Black woman reads books<\/em>) has over 1360 followers. In its profile, you write: \u201cLiterature from a Black perspective&#8221;. Could you describe what that means and entails for you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s a reference to my skin colour: I am a Black German woman and that \u2013 sadly \u2013 has meant that I\u2019ve had very many experiences that were not pleasant; experiences that were painful and sometimes traumatic. It means that I consume and grapple with literature to some extent quite differently to those who are a part of Germany\u2019s majority <em>white <\/em>society. Through my account, I want to share my particular point of view.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For these reasons, I deliberately select books by writers of Colour. My own personal interests here are with Nigeria and the African-American sphere, because I believe that both take up much too little space, even though such wonderful writers emerge from these contexts \u2013 for example, Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, Chinua Achebe, Wole Soyinka and Teju Cole.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What do you hope to achieve with your posts? Who do you imagine your audience to be? What do you hope your followers will take away with them?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Primarily, I want to create awareness: awareness for the perspective of a Black person in Germany, so that people who belong to the majority <em>white <\/em>society can develop a sensitivity. I also consume book blogs. For the most part, they\u2019re <em>white<\/em>, and the people who follow me are also mostly <em>white<\/em>. I want to create awareness for what it means to be Black and German \u2013 that it is not either\/or, but complementary, part of the same whole. That\u2019s what I would like to express with my posts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Are you happy with the development of your Bookstagram presence so far? Do you have the impression of contributing to a change in the book scene?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, I\u2019m overwhelmed by how this has developed. I started with five followers, who were all my friends. Now I\u2019m at over 1360. I\u2019m overwhelmed that people are using the platform that I\u2019m offering. I\u2019m more than happy with it as it stands, but of course I\u2019m also delighted by the growth my account is experiencing, by the fact that more followers join me every day. I\u2019m touched, and also proud. This is a project that I invest a lot of myself in, but from which I also I get so very much back.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I do have the feeling that this is contributing to a change in the Bookstagram world. An example would be when, at the beginning of October, I was invited along with poco.lit. and Tugba Yalcinkaya to speak on a panel organised by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bessie.berlin\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Bessie Berlin<\/a> about visibility in the literature scene. That was a big opportunity, and it was wonderful to be a part of that platform. I also hope for more of that kind of thing in the future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"center\"><strong>Many of the books you post about have been translated from English into German. What are your thoughts on that? Do you find that more books that deal with the themes you\u2019re interested in are written in English? And what is your attitude to the translations?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"center\">When I started getting involved with literature that spoke to, or reflected, my identity, I often read in English because a lot of things just weren\u2019t translated. That has certainly changed. But of course, a lot also gets lost in translation. That\u2019s always a bit of a pity. A good example would be Toni Morrison\u2019s <em>Beloved <\/em>\u2013 which already goes wrong in the German title (<em>Menschenkind)<\/em>. It makes me cross that such a wonderful book was translated in this way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"center\">Another example: last year I attended an event at the international literature festival in which James Baldwin\u2019s <em>The Fire Next Time<\/em> and its German translation were discussed. I had read both, and it was interesting to see the <em>white <\/em>translator Miriam Mandelkow describe how she had interpreted some passages. The speakers on the podium had understood some of these moments quite differently \u2013 and some of these speakers were also Black people.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"center\">A lot really does get lost. Nonetheless, I think it\u2019s important that translation happen because many people in Germany don\u2019t enjoy reading in English. Books that have been translated less successfully \u2013 especially the classics like <em>Beloved<\/em> \u2013 might need an update. Many of these are very old translations. And perhaps they should be translated by People of Colour \u2013 that might be a whole different thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"left\"><strong>What book absolutely still needs to be translated into German?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"left\">I\u2019m already looking forward to the German translation of Bernardine Evaristo\u2018s <em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/2020\/05\/20\/girl-woman-other\/\" target=\"_blank\">Girl, Woman, Other<\/a><\/em>. And then another book, which is no doubt less well-known: the poetry collection <em>the geometry of being Black <\/em>by ogorchukwu. The writer is a young American with roots in Nigeria. Her Instagram is also great.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"left\">For me, this is an empowering book. The poet has divided it beautifully: into phases that describe how Black people encounter and deal with racism. It starts with \u201creceiving\u201d \u2013 what Black people receive from the world. Then it goes on to \u201cinternalizing\u201d \u2013 the hate and rage we internalize. Then \u201cunlearning\u201d \u2013 changing what we\u2019ve internalized, unlearning it. And finally \u201cloving\u201d and \u201cresisting\u201d. It\u2019s done really well and it\u2019s a book that I keep returning to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"center\"><strong>What is your attitude to social media in general? Do you see in Instagram, for example, a political power to speak to a larger portion of society? Can it serve to change minds?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"center\">In principle, I take a critical view of social media because I find that many people don\u2019t engage with it consciously. Often, it\u2019s just consumed in order to escape one\u2019s thoughts or reality. But when it is really used consciously and deliberately, with a goal in mind, in order to change something for the better \u2013 like informing people about climate change or racism \u2013 then I think it can achieve something. We saw the waves it caused in the wake of the murder of George Floyd. One video made waves across the whole world. The resonance was unbelievable, in a way that had never happened before in regard to racism, at least not in Germany. Of course, that was great, but I definitely enjoyed it with care because my feeling was that it might be merely a trend for many people. That\u2019s why I\u2019m not sure how sustainable it is and take a critical view of it. But, certainly, it created consciousness, people were made aware \u2013 for that, it was great.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"center\">I looked it up again today: 2,4 billion people in the world use social media (that\u2019s including everything, Facebook, Whatsapp, Instagram). That\u2019s an unbelievable number. That kind of reach has never been available before and one can do amazing things with it. That\u2019s important, but I remain critical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Do you have plans for the future? What are your goals? Are you actively trying to grow your community?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m just going to keep on producing \u2018content\u2019. I write about the books that I read and share a little bit of my life, as far as I am comfortable doing. I\u2019m not actively trying to recruit new people, I don\u2019t constantly do competitions or advertising. I am who I am and whoever is interested is warmly welcome to follow and exchange ideas with me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Do you think you might like to write a book yourself one day?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ve thought about it. I think I could imagine doing it because I do have quite a few stories to tell. It\u2019s still far in the future, but it would probably be something relevant to my own story, the things that I\u2019ve experienced. I\u2019ve noticed the response to posts in which I share something personal. Many people have written to me and said: I know this feeling, this feeling of inferiority, and not just in relation to racism, but in general. We have so much in common, even if we don\u2019t know each other. I find this power in books and that\u2019s just wonderful.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Primarily, I want to create awareness: awareness for the perspective of a Black person in Germany, so that people who belong to the majority white population can develop a sensitivity.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":15990,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[143,152],"tags":[457,38,151,185],"class_list":["post-16001","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interview","category-interview-3","tag-bookstagram","tag-germany","tag-interview-2","tag-nigeria"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16001","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16001"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16001\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":16008,"href":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16001\/revisions\/16008"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/15990"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16001"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16001"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pocolit.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16001"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}